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PORN TO PURITY PODCAST

Pastor Fred Rochester of Prevailing Word Bible Church
The Secret Sexual Sins Podcast

Every once in a while I’ll do a search on I-Tunes for new podcasts on “sexual addiction recovery”, “pornography addiction”, or “sexual purity”

** Be careful doing these searches, OK?

There’s a good selection.  Some are sermons on purity that pastors have uploaded.  Others are established podcasts from fantastic Christian ministiries.

Some surprise me… like the Secret Sexual Sins Podcast

Go there right now, SUBSCRIBE and DOWNLOAD the episodes.

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REALLY?  A PODCAST CALLED SECRET SEXUAL SINS?
The SSS podcast starts with Pastor Fred’s story and moves toward helping ministers and church members who struggle with sexual sin move into God’s Light.  Pastor Rochester is aware of the struggles of a minister and the power of pornography.

Pastor Rochester was so moved by God that he dedicated an entire year to podcasting about the subject.


MEET PASTOR FRED ROCHESTER
Pastor Rochester and his wife Valeria co-pastor Prevailing Word Bible Church, a small congregation in Brooklyn, NY.  He is also the author of two books The Minister’s Crucible and Secret Sexual Sins.

Pastor Rochester shares in our interview of events in childhood and adolescence that birth his sexual struggles.  He also shares of a time during his ministry when he fell into bondage to pornography.

The Lord has delivered him in a powerful way and turned this dark chapter into a ministry that is touching men worldwide.

 

THE INTERVIEW
Jeff Fisher of Porntopurity.com talks with Pastor Rochester about:

Main Interview (24 min)
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  • How his struggles began
  • How he fell into pornography addiction
  • How he started finding freedom
  • The Secret Sexual Sins Podcast
  • The power of the pastorate
  • The trap many single women feel in church
  • Keys to deliverance and freedom

Bonus Tips For Sexual Purity (5 min)
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  • Key tips on how a young man can get free from pornography addiction
  • Key tips on how a minister can begin finding freedom

KEY LINKS
Prevailing Word Ministries

Secret Sexual Sins Podcast

 

Porn to purity readers… I have a question for you:

Q:  If you were interviewing a candidate for a ministry position, what questions could you ask to find out about a person’s sexual struggles or struggles with pornography?

I had a ministry friend ask me this question recently.

Email me with your thoughts:  jeff@porntopurity.com or leave a comment

Next week I’ll share some of your suggestions (anonymously), and I’ll share some of my thoughts.

I am a minister who struggles with sexual sin. I used to hide and lie.  God brought my sins into the open and has been helping me for the last 4 years to find deliverance, freedom and pornography.

I know he can do the same for you ministers and church leaders.  This series is designed to help you with the process.

  • The need for authentic environments
  • How not to be paralyzed by our fears
  • The importance of walking in truth and integrity
  • Who do I share with first?
  • How do I share my sexual struggles with church leaders?

 

A CHALLENGING FOLLOW-UP QUESTION
Q:  I am a minister and actively working on my sexual struggles with my church family.  I started struggling when I was a pastor of another church.  Should I share my struggle with my former church family?

I am impressed at how you are showing true fruits of repentance.  You have submitted to authority.  You are consulting with wise counsel and with your wife.  And now you are asking a question about how far should your confession go.  You are showing brokenness, humility, you have a sense of the consequences of your actions, and you want to make everything right.

Let me offer a few thoughts on your questions about confessing to former churches.

I think you should follow the counsel of your counselors and of your wife on this one.  I suspect that they are pretty good barometers for you and the depth of your confession.

Here are some exceptions:

  1. If you had stepped over the “flesh” line with someone from a former church, there’s no question, that’s unfinished business.
  2. If you had developed an emotional affair with someone from another congregation, that calls for a confession.
  3. I think if you lied to your elders or leaders directly about your use of pornography, that’s something you would want to consider confessing.

You may have a chance in the future to talk with former church elders or members about what God has done in your life.  Your story is important as a testimony of God’s grace and a godly model of restoration.

It’s not that your porn use at your former churches did not effect your ministry, of course it did.  Porn, lust, fantasy, and sexual sin are idols and take the energy we could have used for God’s purposes and point them in wrong directions.  But you are no longer under their authority.  You were under the authority of the church you were removed from.  That is the church body that you must be primarily concerned with.

One thing I’m certain of… if there is something you feel you need to confess to your former church and your counselors and wife concur, you must talk to the current pastor first.  He is the shepherd now, and he needs to know about a reveal that would affect his church.

I’m praying for you church leaders.  We have to value authenticity, walk in the light, find safe people to talk to, take risks, and trust the Lord with the next steps.

jeff@porntopurity.com

CHURCH LEADERS WHO STRUGGLE SERIES
1.0 – Let’s Talk About Authenticity
2.0 -Let’s Talk About Our Fears
3.0 – Whom Do I Talk to First?  How Do I Share?
4.0 – Do I Share My Struggles With My Former Church?

 

I am a minister who struggles with sexual sin. I used to hide and lie.  God brought my sins into the open and has been helping me for the last 4 years to find deliverance, freedom and pornography.

I know he can do the same for you ministers and church leaders.  This series is designed to help you with the process.

  • The need for authentic environments
  • How not to be paralyzed by our fears
  • The importance of walking in truth and integrity
  • Who do I share with first?
  • How do I share my sexual struggles with church leaders?

WHOM DO I SHARE WITH FIRST?

Exercise wisdom in how you begin sharing your struggles.

If you are taking the initiative and are ready to share, here is a suggestion for the order. Each step will help you to be courageous, gather support, and give you wisdom about the next step.
If we share in an unwise way, a lot more damage can be done. If we have been holding onto secrets, we are probably not in the best frame of mind to do it all alone. God has provided several levels of wise people around you that can help you with the process.

1. Talk with someone safe first – a counselor, another pastor, a trusted friend. If you can’t find a counselor in your area with whom you feel safe, call ministries like Focus on the Family, Heart to Heart Ministries, Pure Life Ministries, or Be Broken Ministries.

2. You need to share with your spouse – The closest person in your circle will need to know what’s going on. God has given you a spouse to help you. Your spouse may not be a safe person to share with, and that’s why you need to share with a counselor first. A counselor can help you know how to share with your spouse.

3. Denominational leaders / Mentors – The next in your authority chain is probably your denominational leaders, or at least spiritual mentors. If you are going to share with your church leaders, you need the perspective of other wise people. Denominational leaders have probably already assisted other ministers with sexual struggles. They might even have specific training on the matter. They will be able to give you guidance on how to share with your church leaders.

4. Legal Counsel – If you have victimized someone or done something illegal, you will want to get a lawyer. Getting a lawyer is not to help you hide or craft a defense. Lawyers can be help you to be wise about how to proceed if you have broken the law or victimized someone.

 

HOW DO I SHARE WITH MY CHURCH LEADERS?

 

When my wife and I met with the leaders of our church plant, I shared what had happened. I shared how my struggles had a long history and how they had escalated recently. I shared about my cover-up and the intervention. I shared the advice of my mentors and I sought the forgiveness and prayers of my leaders.
One mistake we made: We decided to share the details with our church leaders, but not tell the church members that we were having marital problems. It seemed good at the time, but it put our leaders in a difficult position with the church of not sharing some things. It paved the way for rumors of what “really” happened. It also indirectly taught our church leaders that certain things are too bad to be shared in this community. It taught them there was a limit to authenticity.

1. Share with your “inner circle” of leaders first – A general rule of thumb is, “The leaders closest to you need to hear it first.” If you don’t have an “inner circle” of elders, deacons, or counsel in your church, have the leaders all gathered together. But if your church is structured with several circles, start with the leaders who are closest to you.

 

They don’t need to be blindsided by a huge announcement. You owe them your time, and they can be some of your biggest supporters to help with the other steps.

Ask your “inner circle” to be at all subsequent meetings. Ask them to keep the information in confidentiality until you share with all of your church leaders.

2. Share privately with your leaders as a group – You need to have a private meeting with those in your larger leadership circle. Don’t share individually. Every leader needs to hear the same story. Your “inner circle” needs to be at this meeting.

3. Share humbly – You are not there to defend your behavior or minimize it. You recognize that you have a secret and you need help. You have struggles that cannot be handled alone, and you need their assistance.

4. Share the evolution of the problem and the basics – Your leaders need to know how your struggles began and grew. They need to know how deep it got. They probably don’t need every detail, but you need to share how this came about.

5. Answer questions truthfully – It may be hard, but your leaders make ask you some tough questions. You owe it to them to be truthful. If you have already shared the details with “safe people,” you will be better prepared for the additional question from your leaders.

6. Be prepared for some “lash out” – You can’t control how people react to sin. Sexual sin to many is a “more grievous type of sin.” Your leaders may be shocked and angry. You need to listen, take it, and not be defensive. The best chance for your leaders to get behind you is for you to take a humble posture.

7. Ask for forgiveness – This may seem obvious, but you have sinned against them. You have broken their trust in you, and wronged them.

8. It would helpful to have a denominational leader or mentor there with you – If you have a denominational elder who can be there, he can help guide the process. He can be an advisor for what the church needs to do next. He can be a support for you in this difficult process.

I’m praying for you church leaders.  We have to value authenticity, walk in the light, find safe people to talk to, take risks, and trust the Lord with the next steps.

jeff@porntopurity.com

CHURCH LEADERS WHO STRUGGLE SERIES
1.0 – Let’s Talk About Authenticity
2.0 -Let’s Talk About Our Fears
3.0 – Whom Do I Talk to First?  How Do I Share?
4.0 – Do I Share My Struggles With My Former Church?

I am a minister who struggles with sexual sin. I used to hide and lie.  God brought my sins into the open and has been helping me for the last 4 years to find deliverance, freedom and pornography.

I know he can do the same for you ministers and church leaders.  This series is designed to help you with the process.

  • The need for authentic environments
  • How not to be paralyzed by our fears
  • The importance of walking in truth and integrity
  • Who do I share with first?
  • How do I share my sexual struggles with church leaders?

RECOGNIZE AND DEAL WITH YOUR FEARS

I found out the hard way when I let my fears keep me from sharing my struggles.
I had a problem with lust, fantasy and masturbation since Jr. High. I brought it into my marriage. When the Internet came to our house, I started having struggles with looking at porn sites. I confessed my sin to my wife a couple of times, got some accountability and counseling for a while, and then thought the problem was fixed.

In the middle of a successful ministry in the Northeast, I worked at a place that had an unprotected computer. I did fine for a while and thought there was no way it would become a problem. Eventually, it did. I confessed to my boss and to my wife that I had trouble on the work computer. My boss said if it happened again I was fired. My wife said if it happens again, our ministry here is done. Fine, right? That should be motivation enough, shouldn’t it?

Eventually, I slipped up on the work computer. This time I felt trapped. I didn’t want to lose my job or my ministry, so I decided to hide my behavior. I had an accountability partner that told me I should keep it to myself and just work on it privately. Later I went to a counselor who told me that my boss and wife were overreacting (bad counsel by the way). I started lying to my boss when he would ask if I had any more struggles. I also lied to my wife when she would ask me. And I started pulling away from anyone that might get close to my life. I covered my tracks.

 

My behaviors didn’t get any better. I couldn’t control them. I would have a couple of days of purity on the computer, but would go right back to looking at porn. My porn searches became progressively worse.

I started to believe that the best thing for my family and church was for me to hide it and lie. Deep down I knew that that was not true, but I was regularly ignoring the voice of God on this matter. I was becoming numb to God’s Spirit, and paralyzed by my fears.
Did I get so bad that I had to confess? No. I kept hiding my secret. I eventually left that job and thought I had outsmarted God and everybody.

God knew the path I was headed on was destructive and I was getting worse. It was a sweep of the office computer that eventually uncovered my Internet pornfest. My boss and a fellow pastor staged an intervention.

God found me out. God pulled the plug on me. I had a growing secret that was forced out into the Light. And the consequences were greater for me because I had continually covered up and not taken the initiative to get help.

 

On my podcast For Ministers Who Struggle I recorded the following episodes about dealing with our fears:

 

 

 

 

WE HAVE TO WALK IN TRUTH

The only way to get better is to begin being authentic and truthful. We are worried about losing our reputation, our jobs and our marriages. But how will our situations ever get better without transparency? The longer we wait, the greater the carnage.
Sharing the truth is hard. Sharing the truth takes great courage. But it is the right thing to do. We know that God wants us to be truthful.

Sharing the truth may mean great consequence for you and others. We may lose our ministries, our friends, trust, respect, and reputations. If one of us is doing something illegal, it may mean serious legal consequences. But we have to be brave. Ask God for the courage to share the truth. Lean on Him. Trust Him.
Sharing the truth is the only way to stop it. Our sexual behaviors spin us out of control. We get in a vicious, addictive cycle and grow worse. We have to bring our secrets into the Light. That’s the only way we can truly get better.

I’m praying for you church leaders.  We have to value authenticity, walk in the light, find safe people to talk to, take risks, and trust the Lord with the next steps.

jeff@porntopurity.com

CHURCH LEADERS WHO STRUGGLE SERIES
1.0 – Let’s Talk About Authenticity
2.0 -Let’s Talk About Our Fears
3.0 – Whom Do I Talk to First?  How Do I Share?
4.0 – Do I Share My Struggles With My Former Church?

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